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Talk Your Book: The Alternative to Alternatives
Matt Radgowski, CEO of Halo Investing, joins Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson to discuss how structured notes and defined outcome ETFs are growing in popularity, and how Halo's new Aura tool helps advisors understand and implement these complex products.
Listen on the show ↗Key takeaways
- 📈The structured note market is growing, not shrinking, despite the emergence of similar defined outcome products like buffered ETFs.0:45
- 💡Halo Investing's new Aura tool uses AI to empirically illustrate the impact of structured notes on a client's portfolio, simplifying complex product understanding for advisors.0:52
- 🤝The growth of structured notes is driven by a combination of secular trends in investor demand for defined outcomes and security, improved access through platforms, and the unique story these products offer.4:26
- 🛠️An 'equity repair strategy' uses structured notes with downside protection and higher upside participation to recover from negative asset class performance when mean reversion is expected.10:31
- 🔒For concentrated stock positions, variable prepaid forwards (VPFs) allow clients to collar their stock, freeing up capital for diversification while maintaining some exposure.11:28
- ↔️Advisor sentiment is split between aggressive growth and cautious valuation concerns, but the diversified structured note product set allows for tailored solutions for both views.16:30
Chapters
- 0:00Introduction to Halo Investing and Structured Notes
- 0:45Jevon's Paradox and the Growth of Structured Notes
- 7:06Reasons for Structured Note Resiliency
- 8:48Halo's New Aura Tool: AI for Structured Notes
- 18:15Equity Repair and Concentrated Position Strategies
- 27:10Advisor Sentiment and Product Diversification
- 35:48Operational Aspects and Future Innovations
The digest
Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson welcome Matt Radgowski, CEO of Halo Investing, to discuss the burgeoning world of structured notes and defined outcome ETFs. They explore why these products are gaining traction, how they're being used by advisors, and the role of AI in simplifying their complexity.
Jevon's Paradox and the Growth of Structured Notes
Ben Carlson kicks off the conversation by posing a question about Jevon's Paradox in relation to structured notes. He wonders if the emergence of new ETFs, buffers, and defined outcome products, which offer similar benefits, would constrain the growth of the traditional structured note space. Matt Radgowski, however, confirms that the opposite is true: the structured note market is still growing. He attributes this growth to the increased attention drawn to the space by these new, more liquid products. "We love the attention, quite frankly," Radgowski states, emphasizing that the broader interest in defined outcomes and protection strategies benefits the entire ecosystem.
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- Simplifying Complexity with AI: Introducing Aura
- The Resiliency of Structured Note Products
- Equity Repair Strategies and Concentrated Positions
- Advisor Sentiment: Growth vs. Caution
- The Operational Aspect and Future Developments
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